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Do Your Conversations Lead to Action?

My first career was a television news reporter. Yup, I used to be the guy standing outside of the courthouse or alongside the massive 27 car pileup, trying to paint a picture with words about what happened there and why it mattered to the viewer.

Conversation to ActionSometimes it was easy–because I covered some pretty big events–like elections. But other times it was challenging, because fires in abandoned buildings or a giant cow sculpture made completely out of butter (both actual stories I covered) just don’t have much meaning in the big picture.

When I became a coach, my conversations changed. Instead of describing something that had already happened, coaches have conversations with people about things that had not happened yet, but they WANT to happen.

Do you see the difference? My two careers have proved to me that conversation and action are linked. In fact one doesn’t typically happen without the other. But the order in which those happen really matters.

When we have a conversation, there’s a connection with another person. Sometimes that connection leads to a specific and predictable action. The difference is whether that action has already happened, or if it’s something you’ll instigate.

[Tweet “Don’t talk about what HAS happened.  Help your clients talk about what they WANT to happen.”]

Jesus was the master of conversations that led to action. Think about the woman at the well, Peter’s confession of Jesus, or even his words to the disciple he loved from the cross. A little back and forth, and then an invitation to action.

Our prayer lives are both kinds of conversation. Sometimes we take something that has happed to God (action that leads to conversation). Other times we look for what to do next…and that’s conversation that leads to action.

Which comes first for you, conversation or action? Whichever one does can reveal a LOT about who you are and what you’re called to do.

Maybe a better question is Which one do you think is more helpful for someone who wants to live effectively? I would suggest you that finding equal doses of both is how you really maximize your effectiveness.

There will be times when something happens and you just have to talk about.

But there will be other times where deciding what to do and talking about what will happen in the future is more helpful. Living sacramentally takes two different strategies.

Here are some key observations about the two kinds of conversation:

Conversations Then Action:
– Oriented toward the future and focused on decision-making, relational health, and who will be affected by the decision.
– Designed to help a person determine their course of action and timetable.
– Facilitates noticeable and specific change.
– The larger the action the more effective the conversation!
– Open ended questions that open up possibilities for the person are the key.
– Most common in the Apostolic and Prophetic profiles.

Action Then Conversation:
– Grounded in the present and focused on understanding and emotion.
– Designed to help a person understand the details of a situation and what those details mean.
– The other person probably won’t change what they do next based on the conversation.
– If effective, the other person walks away with a deeper understanding of what is already happened.
– Closed ended questions that confirms what the person is thinking are helpful.
– Most common in the Shepherd and Teacher profiles.

Coaching conversations leverage both kinds of conversations…often a coach will start by helping another person understand what’s going on around them. Then that conversation continues with helping the other personmake a decision about what to do about their current situation. It’s a conversation that starts with action AND leads to action.

Which comes first for you, conversation or action? I’d love to hear your comments in the section below.

Barrier Breakers Podcast #9–Understanding the 125 Barrier

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In this episode of the Barrier Breakers Podcast, Jonathan Reitz & Gary Rohrmayer unpack the reasons why your church gets stuck on the 125 barrier.

You will learn:

  • How to build systems that help your leadership move to new levels.
  • Who you need to grow your church beyond 125.
  • What specific steps you can take to get a full vision for what’s possible.

The Barrier Breakers Podcast wil challenge you to get a God-sized vision for your church (and your leaders) as you understand the specific challenge you face at 125!

New Podcast Episode

Guest Spot on “The Life of a Church Planter” Podcast

Recently I was interviewed on the LIfe of Church Planter podcast with host Matt Peeples.  Life of a Church Planter Podcast LogoMatt and I had a great conversation about how to find the right coach for you and your church plant.  He asked a lot of great questions and we jumped into topics like these:

  • The difference between coaching and mentoring.
  • What to look for when you’re looking for a coach.
  • How often (and for how long) you might work with a coach.
  • How to tell a good coach from a pretender.
  • Why coaching costs money and mentoring typically doesn’t 
  • And more!

Check out the link to podcast here.

Matt’s got a number of great guests coming up, and you should add the LIfe of a Church Planter podcast to your regular listening rotation.

(BTW…Matt told me there was a cord issue during the recording of our conversation.  Sorry about the crackling sound.  It must be because the conversation was ON FIRE!)

Barrier Breakers Podcast, Episode #8

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In episode #8 of the Barrier Breakers Podcast, Jonathan Reitz and Gary Rohrmayer dive into strategies for learning to speak the language of your community and what that can mean for your church plant.

Do you know how to connect with the people in your community who are most available to your new church?  Do you know how to involve other people in what your church is doing?  Do you know how to share leadership authority with people who are connecting to your church?  These are just some of the questions Jonathan & Gary wrestle with in episode #8 of the Barrier Breakers Podcast.

New Podcast Episode

The Breaking Barriers Podcast, Episode #7

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In this episode of the breaking barriers podcast, Jonathan Reitz and Gary Rohrmayer dive into the 65 Barrier.

This barrier is the first really frustrating barrier for most church planters, because it’s not about them.  Well, it IS about them, but it’s also not.

Find out what you can do to get your mind around this frustrating barrier in this episode of the Barrier Breakers Podcast.

New Podcast Episode

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