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Barrier Breakers Podcast #10–The Skills YOU Need to Break the 125 Barrier

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In this episode of the Barrier Breakers Podcast, Jonathan Reitz & Gary Rohrmayer explore the leadership skills you and your team need to break the 125 barrier.

You will learn:

  • How to build systems that help your leadership move to new levels.
  • How to lead in ways that people respect and follow.
  • How the relational dynamics in your chuch will begin to shift as the congregation gets larger.

The Barrier Breakers Podcast will equip you to be the kind of leader that accelerates and gains focus as you target your efforts on at the 125 barrier!

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The Key Difference Between Coaches and Mentors

It’s always amusing when I hear someone say “I need a coach”, and then a few minutes later they say “I need a mentor.”

So which is it?

Coach?  Or Mentor?Coaches and mentors have the same goal: both want to see the client make progress toward their vision.

Don’t miss this. To be effective with a coach or a mentor, YOU’VE got to have a vision.

Your vision might be big or small.

It might be long-term or short-term.

You could take on something you want to do by yourself or something that takes a team.

Every one of these options can be handled by both coaching and mentoring.

Both coaching and mentoring are most effective when you know where you want it to take you. There is a direct connection between clarity and progress. Like the old song says, “If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there!”

Coaching and mentoring are intentional relationships. The intention in the relationship defines how the coach or mentor interacts with the client.

The client supplies the vision, and the coach/mentor brings the intention.  This intention defines how the coach/mentor interacts with the client, specifically on how the client’s next step gets chosen.

A mentor will offer you advice or guidance. They will tell you about things they’ve experienced and unpack how those things might apply to your life. A mentor will try to replicate skills in you that they have already learned. It’s almost like they are cloning a small part of who they are–and how they are–in you.

A coach really won’t do any of those things. A coach will draw out of you what you know was inside of yourself but maybe are hesitant to talk about. The coach will ask you a lot of questions, and will wait patiently while you answer them–even if it takes three or four tries. Coaches will help you connect the dots inside of your head, and then choose what action you want to take. An effective coach will even help you evaluate and apply the things you’re learning about yourself.

There’s no advice or guidance in coaching…unless the coach is switching between coaching and mentoring (which happens all the time, despite what coaches will tell you!)

Someone who has both coaching and mentoring skills will teach you something when teaching is most effective. But they’ll also step back and emphasize listening to help you make the connections or discoveries you need to make when that’s the most appropriate strategy. Sometimes they’ll pour in and sometimes they’ll draw out. In every situation, they should journey with you to wherever it is your vision is calling you.

You supply the vision. They supply the support.

If you’re looking for someone to speak into your life or to help you make sense of what’s going on in your life, the first step is to get clear on the vision you’re pursuing. Where are you going?

The next step is deciding if you want a coach or a mentor. Maybe both sets of skills have valuable things to add to your effectiveness.

  • Sometimes you need someone who has been there and done that.
  • Sometimes you need someone who has the kind of experience that you’re looking for.
  • Sometimes you need to just be with someone who’s done nothing you’re trying to accomplish yourself.

This is when you need a mentor. Church planters are often greatly blessed by being mentored by someone who has been there and done that.

But…

  • Other times you’re blazing new trails, or going somewhere where no one has gone before.
  • Other times the most helpful thing is to have someone who can just help you make sense of all the crazy thoughts running through your mind.
  • Other times it’s most useful to be able to push pause with someone and try to figure out what’s actually going on.

These other times are when coaching is most effective. Any startup environment can be enhanced with the presence of an effective coach. You’re often building the plane as you fly it, so that relatoinship that adds perspective is key.

So, what’s your vision? And what kind of intentional relationship would be most helpful? I’d love to hear what you’re taking on. Hit me up in the comments below.

Do Your Conversations Lead to Action?

My first career was a television news reporter. Yup, I used to be the guy standing outside of the courthouse or alongside the massive 27 car pileup, trying to paint a picture with words about what happened there and why it mattered to the viewer.

Conversation to ActionSometimes it was easy–because I covered some pretty big events–like elections. But other times it was challenging, because fires in abandoned buildings or a giant cow sculpture made completely out of butter (both actual stories I covered) just don’t have much meaning in the big picture.

When I became a coach, my conversations changed. Instead of describing something that had already happened, coaches have conversations with people about things that had not happened yet, but they WANT to happen.

Do you see the difference? My two careers have proved to me that conversation and action are linked. In fact one doesn’t typically happen without the other. But the order in which those happen really matters.

When we have a conversation, there’s a connection with another person. Sometimes that connection leads to a specific and predictable action. The difference is whether that action has already happened, or if it’s something you’ll instigate.

[Tweet “Don’t talk about what HAS happened.  Help your clients talk about what they WANT to happen.”]

Jesus was the master of conversations that led to action. Think about the woman at the well, Peter’s confession of Jesus, or even his words to the disciple he loved from the cross. A little back and forth, and then an invitation to action.

Our prayer lives are both kinds of conversation. Sometimes we take something that has happed to God (action that leads to conversation). Other times we look for what to do next…and that’s conversation that leads to action.

Which comes first for you, conversation or action? Whichever one does can reveal a LOT about who you are and what you’re called to do.

Maybe a better question is Which one do you think is more helpful for someone who wants to live effectively? I would suggest you that finding equal doses of both is how you really maximize your effectiveness.

There will be times when something happens and you just have to talk about.

But there will be other times where deciding what to do and talking about what will happen in the future is more helpful. Living sacramentally takes two different strategies.

Here are some key observations about the two kinds of conversation:

Conversations Then Action:
– Oriented toward the future and focused on decision-making, relational health, and who will be affected by the decision.
– Designed to help a person determine their course of action and timetable.
– Facilitates noticeable and specific change.
– The larger the action the more effective the conversation!
– Open ended questions that open up possibilities for the person are the key.
– Most common in the Apostolic and Prophetic profiles.

Action Then Conversation:
– Grounded in the present and focused on understanding and emotion.
– Designed to help a person understand the details of a situation and what those details mean.
– The other person probably won’t change what they do next based on the conversation.
– If effective, the other person walks away with a deeper understanding of what is already happened.
– Closed ended questions that confirms what the person is thinking are helpful.
– Most common in the Shepherd and Teacher profiles.

Coaching conversations leverage both kinds of conversations…often a coach will start by helping another person understand what’s going on around them. Then that conversation continues with helping the other personmake a decision about what to do about their current situation. It’s a conversation that starts with action AND leads to action.

Which comes first for you, conversation or action? I’d love to hear your comments in the section below.

Barrier Breakers Podcast #9–Understanding the 125 Barrier

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In this episode of the Barrier Breakers Podcast, Jonathan Reitz & Gary Rohrmayer unpack the reasons why your church gets stuck on the 125 barrier.

You will learn:

  • How to build systems that help your leadership move to new levels.
  • Who you need to grow your church beyond 125.
  • What specific steps you can take to get a full vision for what’s possible.

The Barrier Breakers Podcast wil challenge you to get a God-sized vision for your church (and your leaders) as you understand the specific challenge you face at 125!

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Guest Spot on “The Life of a Church Planter” Podcast

Recently I was interviewed on the LIfe of Church Planter podcast with host Matt Peeples.  Life of a Church Planter Podcast LogoMatt and I had a great conversation about how to find the right coach for you and your church plant.  He asked a lot of great questions and we jumped into topics like these:

  • The difference between coaching and mentoring.
  • What to look for when you’re looking for a coach.
  • How often (and for how long) you might work with a coach.
  • How to tell a good coach from a pretender.
  • Why coaching costs money and mentoring typically doesn’t 
  • And more!

Check out the link to podcast here.

Matt’s got a number of great guests coming up, and you should add the LIfe of a Church Planter podcast to your regular listening rotation.

(BTW…Matt told me there was a cord issue during the recording of our conversation.  Sorry about the crackling sound.  It must be because the conversation was ON FIRE!)

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